Archive for November, 2011

How long has the specific harms of the fission products been known? Pt 2

November 30, 2011

Andrew Bolt reckons people in Japan’s hot zones are “probably” safe. What are the specific risks of uptake of these substances and how long has the knowledge been known.

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SOCIETY FOR EXPERIMENTAL BIOLOGY AND MEDICINE, VOLUME 46, JANUARY – APRIL 1941 (recieved Adelaide University, 1941) Page 91, Paper number 11900, title “Radio-Calcium and Radio-Strontium in Pregnant Mice” by Charles Pecher and Jacqueline Pecher. Crocker Radiation Laboratory, University of California, Berkeley. “It was of interest to determine who pregnancy affects this metabolism and to what extent calcium and strontium, previously fixed in the skeleton of the mother, would migrate to the fetus and later to the milk…” (Pecher & Pecher) “…Calcium and strontium previously fixed in the skeletons of mice migrates to the foetus during the last days of pregnancy and to the offspring through the milk….” (Summary and Conclusion, Pecher & Pecher).

And that, Mr Bolt, is why it is that in 1969 the Australian strontium survey of stolen human bones (see earlier post) was detected in still born babies and in babies who died within the first 3 months of life. The fission product came from nuclear activity deemed safe by dickheads. Noone how many of the still births and nursing infant deaths were caused by, or contributed to, by the fission products.

Download the 1941 Pecher paper on the movement of radio strontium from mother to offspring here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3jsn2bob8su9s4s

The time taken for the harms to occur vary. As both Sr89 and Sr90 have been and are being released by the Fukushima reactors. Sr89 in breach of controlled medical substance laws, the Andrew Bolt dictate that noone will “probably” be harmed is total and utter garbage and has been since 1941. And Bolt knows it.

It takes time.

How long has the the specific hazards of the fission products been known? Pt1.

November 30, 2011

Andrew Bolt reckons I should say sorry for considering the ongoing nuclear emissions in Japan to be dangerous to human health.

How long has it been possilble for Bolt to know the truth?

Part of the answer lies in the following publication:

“PROCEEDINGS OF THE SOCIETY FOR EXPERIMENTAL BIOLOGY AND MEDICINE, VOLUME 45, OCTOBER-DECEMBER, 1940, NEW YORK, (recieved University of Adelaide, 1940). Paper 11825P , page 762, Paper title: “Secretion of Radio-Strontium in Milk of Two Cows Following Intrvenous Administration”, by L.A. Erf and Charles Pecher, introduced by J.H. Lawrence, Crocker Radiation Laboratory, University of California, Berkeley.

Download the paper here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4brniob0c1jlcmo

That’s a long time for you to be ignorant Mr Bolt. Cows are mammals. Just like humans.

Get the children and mothers out of the hot zones of Japan NOW.

Iodine 131 half life 8.02 days – Andrew Bolt reckons therefore, no worries. Wrong.

November 30, 2011

Andrew Bolt, self taught scientist extraordinary, reckons Iodine 131 and other short lived reactor emissions are no health concern.

Here’s part of the story of a group of people affected by Iodine 131 – Native Americans.
Mediafire download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?3vby404nyhm5p6m

Can Bolt answer the question as to how radio strontium was found in the bones of still born babies in Australia in 1969 and in the bones of babies who had consumed nothing other than mother’s milk? See chart below:
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Andrew Bolt should say sorry. The Japanese government should move all children, pregnant and nursing mothers from hot zones. TEPCO should take full legal, medical and financial responsibility as should the companies and people who enabled the Japanese nuclear industry.

Get them out of Fukushima NOW.

Bolt has insulted a lot of people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1aQvm5MrU

Andrew Bolt is an ignorant old man. Most of the world isn’t.
http://www.filestube.com/553b5959b6bc0c4803eb/go.html

According to them Bolt is a mess in a dress.

Hey, Andrew Bolt, eat this. “Progress Report on Metabolism of the Fission Products, for Period Ending October 1943, Dr. J. Hamilton, Manhattan Project.

November 30, 2011

Download the full text from:

http://www.mediafire.com/?yzcg6ieddbwh3b2

And have someone living in a Fukushima hot zone growing vegetables explain it to you Mr Bolt. No harm will come to you, “probably”.

“Probably” is such an easy word when some selfish speaker isn’t the one facing the probablities.

“Noone near the Fukushima reactors will suffer “probably”” – paraphrase of a statement by Andrew Bolt in which he called on “antinuclear fanatics” (me?) to say sorry.

Phuck off Bolt. Go to Roxby and collect money.

The work of J Hamilton, under contract from Stone and Compton at the MED Met Lab, breached a cardinal rule of science. Like all the other weapon related work, it was never independently peer reviewed. 1943 was the era in which the National Academy of Science had advised the S1 Com that the use of Strontium bombs were the most easily produced and should be pursued in case the atomic bomb did not work. (AHCRE, Final Report 1994).

Bolt thinks cesium and Iodine Isotopes are the only radionuclides being emitted by the still molten cores at Fukushima.

Every qualified lab in the world disagrees with him. The Japanese government stated in August 2011 that the emissions equated to the fallout from 120 Hiroshima bombs.

If this is good for the people of Japan and the world Mr Bolt, why did the National Academy of Science make its statements in 1943? Why are nuclear weapons weapons of war? Why did the AEC’s Ralph Lapp have grave reservations about the “plumbing” (cooling systems) of nuclear reactors? (circa 1974).

As for Radio Iodine. Bolt reckons it lasts a short period. End of story for him. Not so for the victims, who suffer decades after exposure. More on that next post. Who pays Andrew Bolt to come out with his crap?

As we all know, the next contract awarded Hamilton after the Metabolism of the Fission Products series, involved the infamous human Plutonium injection series. Bolt would see nothing wrong with that. In my opinion.

Monju – Authorities avoiding questions

November 29, 2011

Mainichi Daily News.

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/news/20111129p2a00m0na003000c.html

Fundamental questions being avoided about Monju must be asked
In this file photo, the nuclear reactor Monju is seen in Tsuruga, Fukui Prefecture, on Nov. 16, 2010. (Mainichi)
In this file photo, the nuclear reactor Monju is seen in Tsuruga, Fukui Prefecture, on Nov. 16, 2010. (Mainichi)

The following interaction took place Nov. 26 between reporters and Goshi Hosono, the state minister in charge of the nuclear crisis, after his visit to the Monju prototype fast-breeder reactor in Fukui Prefecture.

“What are your thoughts upon visiting Monju?” a reporter asked.

“I feel that we’re coming to a turning point …” Hosono responded.

“Do you think that decommissioning the plant should be among the options that are considered?” asked another reporter.

“I think there’s a need for deliberation that includes that sort of option,” Hosono answered.

This led to headlines regarding Hosono “contemplating the decommissioning of Monju.” But did Hosono really say anything groundbreaking? I don’t think he did.

On a superficial level, one gets the impression from media reports that those for decommissioning Monju are winning the fight against those for the reactor’s survival. Decision-making at the political level is in the hands of pro-Monju advocates, however, and they haven’t made much of a fuss about it. Their silence betrays a certain smugness that allowing the anti-Monju bloc to complain won’t make a difference. It was under such nuanced circumstances that Hosono avoided making any clear-cut statements.

The Noda-sponsored non-legally-binding waste-cutting deliberations have failed to accomplish as much as it looks like. Government Revitalization Unit members gave up on Sunday to engage in fierce discussion, ultimately recommending that the Monju project undergo a “fundamental review.”

The panel members recommended a cancellation of 2.2 billion yen of the 21.5 billion yen requested for the fiscal 2012 budget in Monju-related government spending. However, because the committee has avoided a basic discussion about whether it is necessary to continue with the Monju project at all, they haven’t been able to address the remaining 19.3 billion yen. Its recommendation for a “fundamental review” is essentially the panel members unloading the problem on someone else who will hopefully take care of the rest.

Why, then, did the waste-cutting panel fail to engage in a fundamental debate on Monju’s necessity? Most likely, the panel was holding back out of consideration for the Japan Atomic Energy Commission (JAEC), the organization responsible for deliberating the country’s basic nuclear policy.

The Energy and Environment Commission — the JAEC’s umbrella organization — probably warned the Government Revitalization Unit panel against venturing into the realm of nuclear controversy, and to refrain from causing any waves until next summer, when the government’s new nuclear policy outline will be drafted.

Though media reports make it seem as though we are moving toward the direction of decommissioning Monju, unfortunately, that is not the case. After 44 years and a total 1 trillion yen in public funds, Monju is still not up and running. It doesn’t even look like it will run, which is why immediately after the Great East Japan Earthquake, there were increased calls for the abandonment of Monju research and development. But now, a comeback is being staged by advocates for development that is “less wasteful.”

Fast-breeder reactors like Monju run on plutonium extracted from spent nuclear fuel that’s been produced by other reactors and reprocessed. Unless this nuclear fuel cycle is established, spent fuel will only continue to accumulate. Indeed, as of September 2010, the fuel storage pools in all of Japan, with a combined capacity of 20,420 tons, were filled with 13,530 tons of spent fuel, taking up 66 percent of storage capacity.

This data came to light in May when Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) lawmaker Taro Kono, who is staunchly against nuclear power and the nuclear fuel cycle, requested the information from the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI). Kono has pointed out that even if we assume that the Fukushima No. 1 and No. 2 nuclear power plants and the Hamaoka Nuclear Power Plant in Shizuoka Prefecture remain shut down, calculations show that in less than six years, fuel storage pools will all be filled to the brim.

What are we going to do with the massive volume of nuclear trash that is about to overflow from our nuclear power plants? Avoiding reality is not an option available to us. We must wake up and pick up after the mess that economic prosperity has left behind. I can only hope that the prime minister and the nuclear crisis minister make the right turn at this turning point. (By Takao Yamada, Expert Senior Writer)

Fukushima Decontamination Expertise questions.

November 29, 2011

Mainichi Daily News

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111129p2a00m0na010000c.html

Only specialist firms should clean up areas with high radiation, say health experts
An experiment to decontaminate soil is conducted in Kawamata, Fukushima Prefecture, on Aug. 11. (Mainichi)
An experiment to decontaminate soil is conducted in Kawamata, Fukushima Prefecture, on Aug. 11. (Mainichi)

Only businesses specializing in radiation should be allowed to be engaged in the decontamination of areas where annual external exposure to radiation is over 1 millisievert, experts recommend.

Moreover, such businesses should be required to strictly control workers’ exposure to radiation, according to recommendations made by experts commissioned by the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry in the wake of the accident at the tsunami-hit Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant.

Based on the suggestions, the ministry is set to work out regulations and guidelines on decontamination as early as Jan. 1 under the Industrial Safety and Health Act.

The new regulations and guidelines will apply to decontamination work at facilities where the hourly air dose of radiation is 0.23 microsieverts, or 1 millisievert a year.

If workers perform decontamination work on dozens of occasions a year in areas where radiation levels are 0.23 to 2.5 microsieverts, the ministry estimates that their annual external exposure will be well below 1 millisievert and believes that they do not have to undergo radiation exposure screening by their employers. Based on this estimate, the regulations and guidelines will allow local residents and volunteers to participate in decontamination in such areas.

However, the proposal adds that businesses specializing in radiation must be commissioned to decontaminate areas if workers are required to be engaged in decontamination work for long periods and their external exposure to radiation exceeds 1 millisievert a year. Businesses engaged in such work will be obligated to strictly control workers’ exposure to radiation.

In areas where the air dosage of radiation is not more than 2.5 microsieverts per hour, regulations and guidelines will allow their employers to conduct simple checkups on them, such as sample testing.

In areas where the air dosage of radiation is higher than that level and in areas designated as evacuation zones near the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, however, businesses must ensure each worker carries a dosimeter during their work and strictly check each individual’s exposure to radiation.
Workers experiment with draining radioactively contaminated mud from a paddy field, left, onto a tarp-covered adjacent field in Iitate, Fukushima Prefecture, on Aug. 24. (Mainichi)
Workers experiment with draining radioactively contaminated mud from a paddy field, left, onto a tarp-covered adjacent field in Iitate, Fukushima Prefecture, on Aug. 24. (Mainichi)

Workers must wear protective masks and suits and undergo checks on their internal exposure to radiation every three months if they work in areas where soil and waste are highly contaminated with radioactive substances and where workers are exposed to huge amounts of dust.

However, questions have been raised over whether businesses will strictly abide by the regulations and guidelines as many small- and medium-sized companies without expertise are expected to engage in decontamination work.

The ministry’s Policy Planning Division said it will instruct companies concerned to strictly abide by the rules.

“We’ll invoke punitive clauses in the Industrial Safety and Health Act if we confirm any company deviates from the rules. We’ll step up our instructions to businesses through local labor standards’ inspection offices,” a division official said.
end quote.

Im surprised they havent demanded Australia send Andrew Bolt. He knows everything there is to know apparently and would be perfectly safe in shorts and tank top. So safe he’d reckon all he’d have to do is sit on his bum and eat the dirt for the sake of its health benefit.

The Harms of the fission products – The US Dept of Defence vs Andrew Bolt

November 29, 2011

Full text download at

To paraphrase Bolt: Probably noone will be hurt by fission products. History proves him wrong. The stuff is a weapon of war.

Source:
Department of Defense
Report on Search
for
Human Radiation Experiment
Records

1944 — 1994
Volume 1

Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for
Nuclear and Chemical and Biological Defense Programs
Quote:
Chapter 6 Radiological Warfare.

During World War II, scientists explored military
uses of radiological materials. The ability to
manufacture radioactive materials had already been
developed. Scientists began to explore the feasibility
of dispersing radioactive material over a land area to
deny its use to the enemy. Discussions included using
such radiological weapons to destroy crops, poison
water supplies, or force the enemy to abandon a
critical facility.
Radiological warfare involves:
the use of radioactive substances to produce
personnel casualties or to deny the enemy* full
use of terrain or installations due to the physiological
damage which will result from continued
occupation of the area**.1
The dispersal of radiological agents does not involve
an atomic bomb but rather uses conventional
explosives*** to disperse radioactive material over a
given area****.”
END QUOTE

* In this case, the people with claims against TEPCO.
** In this case, houses people can’t safely live in until fully decontaminated, but who still have to pay
mortages on.
*** In this case, hydrogen generated by the dumb design of the fuel rod cladding material. Etc.
**** In this case, Japan and the Northern Hemisphere.

Mr Bolt, have the people of Fukushima suffered a denial of use of territory?

Mr Bolt, do you have a house in the exclusion zone you still have to pay a mortage on? If not, say sorry and then shut your gob.
Do you have children who have to live, for economic reasons stemming from govenernment policy aimed at lessening TEPCO’s liability, who have to live in an area defined by the US DoD above? If not, say sorry.

See also

http://www.project-112shad-fdn.com/

DUGWAY PROVING GROUND SURVIVORS.

“NO HARM WILL PROBABLY COME TO ANYONE” : ANDREW BOLT. Bullshit. History proves Bolt wrong.

A Strontium Chronology by P. Langley

November 29, 2011

Andrew Bolt will demand I say sorry. He can piss off.
A STRONTIUM CHRONOLOGY
1790
Natural Strontium discovered and science begins its study of
this element and its place in the environment and foodchain.
No radio active isotope of Strontium exists. (Source: US
Government EPA)
1940
The radio-active isotopes of Strontium – Strontium 89 and 90
are created in experimental atomic piles (early reactors).
It is found that as for other radio-isotopes, the bio-chemical
nature of radio-Strontium is the same as for the nonradioactive
natural isotope of Strontium
It is found that :
“Recently Pecher has demonstrated a marked similarity in the
metabolism of radio-calcium and radio-strontium of mice and
rats……much of the calcium found in milk may be derived
from that present in the diet, and Pecher has shown, in
mice, that some is derived from that most recently
deposited in the trabecular portion of bone..”
Source: “Secretion of Radio-Strontium in Milk of Two
Cows Following Intravenous Administration”, L.A. Erf
and Charles Pecher, page 762, “Proceedings of the Society for
Experimental Biology and Medicine” Volume 45, October-
December 1940 (Nineteen Forty), New York.
In 1940 it was known that atomic fission – as used in reactors
and atomic bombs – produced radioactive Strontium which
upon being ingested behaves in the body in a manner very
similar to calcium. Thus it would dose the affected tissues with
radiation.
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That is, it will be used by human bone and will also be used in
the production of nutrients for the fetus and in the production
and secretion of milk during lactation. In 1940 it was known
that Strontium deposited in bone will be released during
lactation and secreted in milk of mammals, including humans.
These findings were published in the scientific literature.
Globally, Experts in the fields related to Bio-chemistry had
access to this knowledge. Dr Hedley Marston’s great concern
about Strontium 90 was indeed well founded.
1952
It is found that:
“Carlsson (1952) and Carlsson and Lindquist (1955) have
shown that the increased serum calcium levels after physiologic
doses of Vitamin D cannot be due entirely to an increased
uptake of calcium from the intestine and therefore, must be the
result of mobilisation of calcium from skeleton, an action
previously ascribed to parathyroid hormone.” Source: “The
Movement of Calcium and Strontium Across Biological
Membranes – Proceedings from a Conference held at Cornell
University, Ithaca, New York, May 13-16, 1962″, page 246.
Chapter:”Theories of Vitamin D Action”.Academic Press, New
York, 1963)By Harold E. Harrison, and Helen C. Harrison,
Department of Pediatrics, Baltimore City Hospitals and Johns
Hopkins University School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland.
So among other things, sunlight exposure, which enables the
production of vitamin D in humans, enhances both the uptake
of Strontium 90 and its release from bone into the soft tissue.
This is because Humans use sunlight to produce Vitamin D.
(Calcium and Strontium both respond to this bio-chemical
factor).
1952.
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The atmospheric atomic bomb tests in Australia start. The
NATO military code word given to radioactive fallout from
atomic bombs is “Sunshine”. (Source: the book “Men Who Play
God.)
1952
The military monitoring) of Australia for atomic fallout from
the bomb tests commences. (military jargon – Radiac
monitoring – Radiation Detection Identification and
Computation) The date ranges of related documents held by
Australian Archives implies that the Radiac monitoring of
Australia and Australian atomic test sites was constant from
the first test. The latest and final date for Radiac records
located under the keyword “Radiac” held in National Archives
is 1985. (Source: Australian Government National Archives,
search pages, Keyword search under “Radiac”, Federal
Parliamentary Hansard, various Atomic Weapons Test Safety
Committee Reports, AIRAC and NRAC reports).
1955
Carlsson and Lindquist publish further work linking the
uptake and release of Strontium 90 into soft tissue to Vitamin
D. Source: ibid.
1957
The atmospheric Atomic Bomb Test Program in Australia
ceases. Further British tests occur in the Pacific. “Safety Tests”,
also called “Minor Trials”, continue in Australia. These tests
involved blowing up radioactive material using conventional
explosives. They continued until the 1960s.
The Australian government extends radiation monitoring to the
study of human bones. This fits in with the US Project
Sunshine Global Human Bone Study. And that grew out of
Operation Gabriel – a Manhattan Project Operation that was
concerned at finding the effects of atomic fallout on humans
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and of finding ways of protecting Americans and Allies from it.
Project Sunshine resulted in the global collection of human
bones. These were used to measure the amount of Atomic
Fallout sourced radio active Strontium 90 which had been
absorbed by the bones of Australians and people worldwide.
In Australia, bone samples are secretly taken from the bodies of
stillborn babies and other deceased Australians (and residents
of New Guinea) of all ages.
The history of the Human Bone Sampling program, dating as it
does from Operation Gabriel, shows that the entry of the bomb
fallout substance Strontium 90 into the environment, the food
chain and into people was a concern even before the post war
atomic test era had started.
Australian bones were collected initially for analysis in the UK.
Later Australia processed and studied its own bones. However,
constant cooperation with the American human bone program
did occur, with many Australian human bone samples being
sent to Columbia University for study.
The results were openly published in scientific journals in the
period 1957 to 1978. The media however has never made the
results widely known. In 2001, British, followed by world
media, did publish stories about the bone-sampling program.
These stories concentrated on the morality of governments
stealing body parts.
No mass media has ever discussed the actual bone survey
results or what they mean in terms of the safety of the
atomic tests. Although veterans and veteran associations have
presented the media with the results regularly over a period of
many years, the media has chosen to ignore it.
This bone-monitoring program was conducted throughout the
period 1957 to 1978. A study of the results reveals a major
inconsistency in the government line regarding the effects of
Strontium 90. In fact, as was known in 1940, Strontium 90
affects soft tissue also.
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No soft tissue-sampling program took place. However, soft
tissue is more vulnerable to radiation than adult bone. While
Caesium 137 did present the greatest threat to soft tissue, the
Strontium 90 dose posed an additional threat, particularly to
women.
1957 continued.
“Public Health Impact of Fallout from British Nuclear Weapons
Tests in Australia, 1952-1957” Wise & Moroney, ARL, is
released. Pages 1-3 state:
“Two population groups are excluded from the calculations.
They are the aboriginals living away from population centres
and the personnel involved directly in nuclear test
activities. Otherwise, the total population is represented in
the estimated radiation doses.”
Regulated bigotry.
However, the bones of Indigenous Australians were included in
the bone collection operation.
In this report the Australian Government gives Caesium 137
concentrations measured in Human Soft tissue.
The Australian Government does not give any Strontium 90
concentration figures for soft tissue. And it never has.
Sources:
Public Health Impact of Fallout from British Nuclear
Weapons Tests in Australia, 1952-1957
AWTSC Report Number 5, Strontium 90 and Caesium 137
in the Australian Environment during 1969 with some
results for 1970”.
Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency
Report “AUSTRALIAN STRONTIUM 90 TESTING
PROGRAM 1957-1978”, 2001.
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Media Release, Dr Michael Wooldridge
Minister for Health and Aged Care, MW82/01, 5 September
2001
1958
Linus Pauling publishes work entitled “No More War!” It cast
serious doubts over the estimation of the risks of radioactive
fallout by Teller who, according to Pauling, deliberately
distorted the facts. For Marston this was splendid news. To his
mind, distorting the facts was exactly what the (Australian
Atomic Weapons Test ) Safety Committee were about.”(Dr
Roger Cross, “Fallout – Hedley Marston and the British Bomb
Tests in Australia”, Page 155, Wakefield Press, ISBN 1 86254
523 5)
1962, APRIL
In the April 1962 edition of “The Australian Journal of Science,
Vol. 24, No 10, P. 397” published an article by Bryant, Dwyer,
Moroney, Stevens and Titterton, of the Atomic Weapons Test
Safety Committee entitled “Strontium 90 in the Australian
Environment, 1957 to 1960”. It reached the scientific
audience one month before the May 1962 Strontium 90 –
Calcium conference at Cornell University.
In the article the AWTSC states: “Early in 1957 the Australian
Atomic Weapons Tests Safety Committee extended its fallout
monitoring program to include measurements of global fallout
and, in particular, Strontium 90, in materials from the
Australian Environment. Comparatively little was known then
of the sources from which Strontium in man is normally
derived, but it was expected that the element would be closely
associated with calcium in the food chain and in the skeleton.”
(Source: ARPANSA reprint)
Please cross reference these AWTSC statements with the
scientific findings regarding the bio-chemical and foodchain
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nature of Strontium of all isotopes for all years, commencing at
1790. In particular note the findings for the following years:
1940, 1952, 1955.
Note also that although Strontium 90 and Strontium 89 do not
occur in nature, both isotopes behave identically with all other
isotopes of Strontium, when ingested by mammals.
Strontium 90 moves primarily to the skeleton in both males and
females and also to soft tissues according to the bio-chemical
processes initiated by gender and reproductive life events such
as pregnancy and lactation. Scientific findings of 1940, 1952
and 1955 support the proposition that the Strontium 90 found
in the bones of stillborn babies arrived via the mother’s soft
tissue and intra-cellular fluid. Titterton and the Atomic
Weapons Test Safety acted as if they didn’t know the majority
of these findings before the firing of the first atomic bomb in
Australia, The interchange between the USA, the UK and
Australia during and after the Manhattan Project was deep.
Titterton would have known about Operation Gabriel and of the
1940 findings regarding the secretion of radio Strontium from
contaminated cows.
1962, MAY
A Major Conference takes place:
“The Movement of Calcium and Strontium Across Biological
Membranes – Proceedings from a Conference held at Cornell
University, Ithaca, New York, May 13-16, 1962”, published by
Academic Press, New York, 1963.
A major finding of this conference was that Strontium 90, a
fission fallout product, not only collected in bone, but was able
to cross the placenta and become incorporated in the tissue of
the growing baby. Further, the mechanism which resulted in
the transport of Strontium 90 into the breast and into breast
milk was examined. These findings quoted research conducted
over the decades of the 1940s and 1950s. The conference was
told Strontium 90 uptake was increased in those people exposed
to “whole body Radiation”. Some findings were the result of
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deliberately injecting radioactive isotopes into living people,
others relied on Human bone samples obtained globally,
including Australian specimens.
The Cornell findings postulate the existence of a “Calcium pool”
to account for experimental results relating to Strontium 90
movement in and secretion from the Bovine mammary gland.
Initial experiments in this area date from the 1940s. (Erf and
Pecher – Intravenous Strontium 89 tracer doses to two cows
results in 11.00% and 7.88% of dose secreted to milk up to 102
hours after dose administration Source: “The Transfer of
Calcium and Strontium Across Biological Membranes –
Proceedings of a Conference held at Cornell University Ithaca,
New York, May 13-16, 1962, Page 329 ).
The conference republishes the 1940 and 1950s results
regarding Strontium and its radio-isotopes: Strontium 89 and
Strontium 90, and republishes the 1940 finding that the radio
active isotopes of Strontium behave as natural Strontium does
in the food chain and in the body of humans. The conference
confirms that the presence of Radio active Strontium 90 in cows
milk, human milk and in the bodies of stillborn human babies,
in infants and children of all ages and adults of all ages.
Further, the conference finds that:
“There are now data from measurements of fallout Strontium
90 in thousands of human bone samples collected from most
areas of the world.” (page 394)
“Results from the Southern Hemisphere indicate a level
of Strontium 90 in bone which, while lower than that in
the Northern Temperate Zone, is not lower by a factor
which one could expect in view of the differences in
fallout. Thus, while fallout levels are lower by
perhaps a factor of five, bone levels are lower by
no more than a factor of two.” Roy, C. Thompson,
Biology Laboratory, Hanford Laboratories, General Electric
Company, Richland Washington.
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These figures represent the AVERAGE values of Southern
bones compared to Northern Hemisphere bones. An obvious and
credible theory to account for this significant difference is the
higher proportion of Southern Hemisphere people who do not
live a European lifestyle with European style infrastructure,
housing, piped water, full body clothing, bathing facilities,
laundry facilities, washed and processed and tinned food, other
foods sourced from distant locations and were excluded from the
fallout exposure and uptakes surveys.
These 1962 results of the global survey testify to the special
vulnerability of indigenous people to the effects of atomic
weapons testing. This knowledge is not new. From the time of
the first US military surveys of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the
physical effects and avenues of human protection were known.
Civil Defence films of the 50s era show the procedures of
protection rely heavily upon European infrastructure,
technology, personal resource and life style.
Indigenous populations are far more vulnerable to the effects of
atomic weapons. They have less built infrastructure to destroy,
they have less opportunity for shielding and are in intimate and
daily contact with their local environment, including gathered,
unprocessed food and water.
It is a tragic fact that Indigenous Australians were excluded
from the Australian Governments published exposure surveys.
It is also tragic that the results of the Strontium 90 bone survey
average its results rather than present results for population
types, groups and specific locations.
1969
During each year in the period of the Australian Human Bone
Survey, the Australian Government released the bone data. It
was reported in scientific journals, not the mass media.
Please see overleaf for the national averaged results:
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Here’s the data for 1969. How did Sr90 arrive in fetal bone?
1969 continued
The Australian Government maintains that, of the long lived
radioactive fallout elements, only Caesium 137 affects soft
tissue. This justified keeping the Caesium dose separate from
the Strontium dose. The truth is that they should have been
added to arrive at an accurate soft tissue dose.
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Source: “Public Health Impact of Fallout from British Nuclear
Weapons Tests in Australia, 1952-1957”
Studying Strontium only in bone was negligent. The
government should have openly surveyed both bone and soft
tissue.
They didn’t and the reasons for not doing so are clear. If breast
and placental samples were taken along with bone, voters
would have questioned whether the atomic tests
aided Australia’s security or threatened it. And the population
would have stumbled upon the second type of atomic warfare:
Radiological attack.
Radiological warfare: denying the enemy safe access to
territory by the use of fine particulate radioactive particles
placed by any means in a contested area.
During the atomic tests in Australia, Aboriginal mission
stations such as Yalata grew in scope and size. Denied access to
vast areas of land, many indigenous Australians were forced
into the transition from living traditional lifestyles into a limbo
of de-cultured dependant stasis.
1971
The Australian Government states: “Any effect of Strontium 90
on individuals in the population results from the radiation
doses it delivers to bone tissue, after ingestion in foodstuffs.”-
Professor Sir Ernest Titterton et al., “Atomic Weapons Test
Safety Committee Report Number 2, Commonwealth of
Australia, Strontium 90 and Cesium 137 in the Australian
Environment During 1969 and some results for 1970, May 1971″
These statements are made by the Australian Government 31
years after Pecher’s 1940 findings of Radio-Strontium being
present as a secretion from mammalian soft tissue.
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These Australian Government statements came 14 years after
the first Australian human bone survey results showed the
presence of Radio Strontium in the bones of deceased
Australians including the bones of still-births.
The still birth bones prove this: Having never eaten or taken a
drink for themselves in utero, the developing fetus was
nourished soley by the mother via the placenta. In the fifty
years since the tests not one investigator has asked the
question.
If the Australian Government is giving correct information, how
did the Strontium 90 get into the bones of the fetus? The
Australian Government maintains Strontium 90 is not present
in human soft tissue. How then did the mother pass it to her
baby?
Is the government lying? Why? What current technological
nexus demands that the lie continue?
The conclusion is that as Pecher discovered in 1940 and
Carlsson discovered in 1952 and 1995, Strontium 90 is present
in soft tissue in transit to bone, and in transit from gut and
bone to the placenta in the case of a pregnant woman and in
transit from gut and bone to the breast in the case of a lactating
woman.
The statements issued by the Australian Government regarding
the soft tissue presence of Strontium 90 in soft tissue ignore
female biochemistry.
The Australian Government’s statements regarding Strontium
90 are not as untrue for males. And the government reports
admit to a higher risk of bone cancer.
1971 continued
The Australian Army establishes the “Radiac Calibration
Centre” at 4 Base Workshops , Royal Australian Electrical &
Mechanical Engineers, RAEME, Bandiana Victoria. The
purpose of this establishment is to repair and calibrate the
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military radiation detection instruments used by the Australian
Defence Forces. The uses to which these instruments could be
put include:
1.
To enable the radiological monitoring of the Australian
Environment.
2.
To enable accurate monitoring of the condition of the areas of
Australia used as atomic test sites and their adjacent areas.
This monitoring was started in 1952. Regular reports on the
condition of the test site contamination were sent to Federal
Government agencies.
3.
To assist in the monitoring of fallout deposition over Australia
from the then current French atmospheric thermo-nuclear
bomb tests in the South Pacific.
4.
As Civil and military Defence against Atomic Attack
5.
As an aid in the case of radiological accident or incident.
Sources: Implied by Australian Army, AIRAC, NRAC, AWTSC,
Federal Parliamentary Hansard reports and National Archive
records.
1975
The Radiac Centre closes and its functions transferred to
another Defence Facility.
(Source: Brian Toohey, then a Canberra based journalist)
1985
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The date range of the Radiac records of Australian Defence
Force Radiation Monitoring (Radiac Monitoring), stored by
Australian National Archives, does not extend passed 1985.
The records are placed in storage in National Australian
Archives. The Archive Accession Lists cover the Radiac data
collection period of 1952 to 1985. This is a period of :
33 years.
The last atomic bomb detonation in Australia happened in
1957. The period of time from 1957 to 1985 is
28 years
The half life of Strontium 90 is
29.1 years.
Also in 1985, an Adelaide ABC journalist by the name of Paddy
McGuinness questioned why “thousands” of military radiation
detection instruments had been taken from Australian military
units and placed in storage in Tasmania. On camera he
surmises that it is a bit of a waste to let all these instruments
rust away unused at a time when the Cold War was still
continuing.
The half life of Caesium 137 is similar to that of Strontium 90
It is implied by the historical record, though not proven, that
Australia was monitored for Caesium 137 and Strontium 90 for
the period of one half life. The rest could be extrapolated.
The McClelland Royal Commission fails to discuss the transient
and high Strontium 90 exposure experienced by human soft
tissue during particular life events. Eg during pregnancy and
lactation. This is because, despite Petcher’s 1940 findings to
the contrary, Professors Penney and Titterton continued to
maintain that only Caesium 137 affects soft tissue and that
Strontium 90 only affects bone. It is therefore possible to
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postulate that this omission allows the British and Australian
government to separate the two doses. They should be added.
McClelland finds that Indigenous Australians are the
population most at risk from the products of atomic fallout.
This is due to their lifestyle and dependence on local
unprocessed food, and their immediate and continuous contact
with local environments including exposed soils, water, plants
and fruits.
Sources:
Australian National Archives.
ABC TV.
United States Government. EPA Website re Strontium 90.
The Report of the Royal Commission into British Nuclear Tests
In Australia, 1985, Conclusions and Recommendations.
2003
The research project known as the “Florida Baby Tooth
Strontium 90 Survey” finds that in 2003 the Strontium 90
levels in the recently shed milk teeth of Florida infants has
risen to levels similar to those of the baby teeth shed by infants
during the era atmospheric atomic weapons testing.
The Florida research group present the their finding that the
Strontium 90 in 2003 baby teeth is caused by Strontium 90
emissions into the environment and food chain by United States
nuclear power plants,
Florida has continuously maintained a baby tooth collection
and a resultant Baby Tooth Strontium 90 Concentration
Database since the atomic test era.
Is this the technological nexus which causes the apparent
government imperative not to admit to knowledge gained in the
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1940s about Strontium 90s ability to transport across biological
membranes, invading soft tissue en route to the fetus and
infant?
Is this the serpent in a bottle handed from the bomb makers to
the nuclear power industry?
The invisible, fine particulate radiological challenge emitted
daily from every power reactor on earth, long before the fuel
rods are removed. They are only removed because they are
“spent”. The “small change” being vented to air and water, to
land like poisoned sunshine on a grazing herd or running
stream. This venting is not instantaneous and massive as in
atomic bombs. It is slow and insidious.
At what point does industrial activity become “Radiological
Warfare”?
Source: The Florida Baby Tooth Strontium 90 Survey Web site.
Cars and petroleum products cause mass death and disease
every year, and we still all drive to work.
Leukemia risk is partially a function of kilometers driven by car
per year.
And the dose rate of Strontium 90 from power reactors in
Florida is low, so the advocate experts say.
Exposure to certain chemicals and exposure to radiation causes
a particular hazard due to the bio-chemical results of the
interaction.
Radiomimetic chemicals and radiation have long been used in
the treatment of some cancers. The combined effect is much
more potent than either chemotherapy or radiation treatment
alone.
It is dangerous to expose healthy people to such processes.
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Add Strontium 90 exposure to the Benzene exposure from
petrol in car exhaust. A radiomimetic chemical plus a radiation
exposure from Strontium. More than twice as potent a risk than
either substance alone. Reverse oncology, Chemo and radiation
therapy for the presently well.
Fifty odd years ago Australia and the world began to be
regularly washed with Strontium 90 and Caesium 137 from
atomic bombs. It will be another 250 years before the primary
products and their poison daughter products are gone.
The geo-political and social chaos resulting from the need for oil
presents a major risk of global war.
Advocates say that world peace could therefore be advanced by
the peaceful use of nuclear power. Seems reasonable enough,
and if it doesn’t work, the more reactors there are, the more
bombs we can build!
But let’s be optimistic. Will we survive the transition from
petroleum to nuclear bio-chemically, when at the cross over, our
exposure to aromatic hydrocarbons has not reduced and our
exposure to nuclear power plant emissions has increased?
I guess those with the right genes will.
2003 continued
In Oct 2003 ABC TV presented the findings of US University
research which linked increased exposure to light to increased
risk of breast cancer. The researchers postulate that the
increased risk is connected to Melatonin levels.
Carlsson (1952)and Carlsson and Lindquist (1955) postulated a
link between increased intercelluar levels of Strontium and
Calcium after physiologic doses of Vitamin D. Increased
Calcium and Strontium levels were previously thought to be
mediated soley by the para-thryoid gland.
Vitamin D levels are mediated by light.
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Sources:
ABC TV
Chapter:”Theories of Vitamin D Action”. “The Movement of
Calcium and Strontium Across Biological Membranes –
Proceedings from a Conference held at Cornell University,
Ithaca, New York, May 13-16, 1962”, Academic Press, New
York, 1963)By Harold E. Harrison, and Helen C. Harrison,
Department of Pediatrics, Baltimore City Hospitals and Johns
Hopkins University School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland.
Conclusion:
Due to the fact that Strontium 90 has a half life of 29.1 years, it
is still resident in the bones of Australians and in the
Australian environment.
Under circumstances, including pregnancy and lactation,
Strontium 90 moves from bone storage to sites in soft tissue to
1. Nourish the baby in utero 2. Nourish the baby via breast
milk. This consequence from the testing of nuclear weapons
was predictable. Any expert authority in charge of determining
the safety of atomic weapons testing could be expected to be
aware of the fact. Instead, Prof Titterton, the Atomic Weapons
Test Safety Committee and the Australian Government acted
as if Strontium 90 presented no soft tissue hazard. That
position is still the Government position.
Paul Langley

Human tissue harvesting without permission and radiation Harm to people – Howard Gov vs Andrew Bolt.

November 29, 2011

Andrew Bolt comes out with some weird stuff. The Black Mist never harmed anyone according to him, event though an Australian court found on the evidence to the contrary. But that’s secret. He pissed on Mrs Milpuddies funeral. He claims noone will “probably” suffer radiation harm. Dr Bolt I presume. Well here’s some stuff which shows the reality.

First, a download link to the full AUSTRALIAN RADIATION PROTECTION AND NUCLEAR SAFETY AGENCY REPORT
AUSTRALIAN STRONTIUM 90 TESTING PROGRAM 1957-1978. (Now taken off the net by ARPANSA, I’ve put it back.
Download here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xaara3a2u8jyhau

Secondly, the Liberal Party Government Minister Dr Michael Wooldridge on the harms of exposure to fission product fallout, 2001.

Quote:
“Media Release

Dr Michael Wooldridge
Minister for Health and Aged Care

MW82/01
5 September 2001

ARPANSA REPORT ON STRONTIUM 90 TESTING PROGRAM

The Federal Government has today referred a report by the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) into Australia’s participation in a global nuclear monitoring program to the Australian Health Ethics Committee (AHEC).

Between 1957 and 1978 Australia had a program for measuring strontium-90 (a radioisotope associated with nuclear testing) contamination in the environment.

“While this important research program was public knowledge at the time, I share the concerns of many Australians today about the ethics of not seeking the informed consent of next of kin for the use of human bone samples in the monitoring program,” Dr Wooldridge said on releasing the ARPANSA Report.

“It must be remembered that these events occurred in a different era when it was not common practice to seek the consent of family members for these kind of studies and that is why I asked ARPANSA to examine the records regarding the monitoring program.

“I am informed that the former Australian Atomic Weapons Tests Safety Committee, which coordinated this program, kept records, which included in many cases, the identity of the human samples used. ARPANSA is currently completing the process of collating these records.

“I am now referring the issue of how to best make this information publicly available to the National Health and Medical Research Council’s Australian Health Ethics Committee. AHEC is expected to provide advice by the end of the year on establishing proper ethical protocols so that family members can gain more detailed information about the program,” Dr Wooldridge said.

The Report shows that Commonwealth officials requested hospital pathologists to participate in the fallout monitoring program. Most pathologists in hospitals in mainland Australia and the Northern Territory who were asked were willingly involved as a public service.

The CEO of ARPANSA, Dr Loy, has written to the States involved and the NT providing them with the report and with the names of the laboratories involved for whatever further action they may wish to take.

The Report shows that for the first few years of the program, ashed human samples were sent to laboratories overseas (USA and the UK) for measurement as Australia did not have suitable equipment for measuring strontium-90. However, during the 1960s this capability became available and subsequent samples were analysed in Australia.

The results of the global research effort showed that humans were being adversely affected by radioactive fallout from atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons and the monitoring program contributed to the eventual banning of atmospheric testing throughout the world.” end quote.

The fact that the Japanese Government has announced the local fallout from the Fukushima nuclear disaster is equivalent to the fission product release of 120 Hiroshima bombs gives the lie to Bolt’s transcriptions of what the nuke industry wants him to say and write.

Noone pays me.

The fact is, given the ARPANSA report, the Refern Report, the ACHRE report, chances are Japan will be using the early techniques of the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission (which in the early days after the war had to be surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards) and will be harvesting human tissue of deceased Japanese people to monitor the fission products put into their bodies by TEPCO and the rest of the nuke industry. The Australian government let Britain detonate 12 bombs in Australia in the 1950s. It took until 2001 for a government minister to tell the truth.

If the Japanese authorities take the same amount of time to tell a fraction of the truth, it will be 2055 before they do a Wooldridge.

Bolt will be an old man or gone to God. Many of the people he confronts, affronts, insults, diminishes, and lies to may or may not be there to greet him. He’s just scratchng around trying to make a living I guess, but according to him, the victims of Fukushima, the Black Mist and fission product exposure cannot do a thing right.

According to him. And we, he says, should apologise.

I guess Bolt has never seen Nightbreaker or Backs to the Blast or Silent Storm, or measured the French Fallout as it arrived in Australia in the 1970s, or watched the milk in Queensland get dumped because of French Iodine. He ignores the still molten corium of the Fukushima, and the continuing venting of fission product there.

What a brain.

I wonder what the pathologists in Japan are being paid. A darn sight more than the Australian ones were I suspect.

A brief quote form:

AUSTRALIAN RADIATION PROTECTION AND NUCLEAR SAFETY AGENCY REPORT
AUSTRALIAN STRONTIUM 90 TESTING PROGRAM 1957-1978
Payment of a bonus for the collection of samples

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“At this stage of the program the payment of a bonus of $50 to hospitals providing specimens was proposed:

“I have given a good deal of thought to the desirability of providing your technicians with at least some compensation for their efforts on our behalf. In the past there has been an obvious reluctance to accept such an offer, no doubt on account of the nature of the material and the purpose for which the specimen s are intended. However several factors lead me to reopen the question; for example, many technicians have already made considerable contribution to the bone survey with no payment from us and, in some instances it is becoming increasingly difficult to sustain an interest, with a tendency for specimens to be overlooked. We intend continuing the survey from some years and are anxious to maintain an adequate coverage of the population…

Perhaps compensation would best be in the form of an annual or six monthly bonuses paid to the technicians on our behalf through a hospital/laboratory account. Direct payment by us has unfortunate overtones and too much of the appearance of buying tissue; furthermore there are several statutory difficulties in us making payments of that sort. If it is not possible to operate through a hospital/laboratory account for this purposes, perhaps you could accept the sum, say, for “pathological services”, and pass it on to your technicians on our behalf.

——————————————————————————————————————-

28 Letter from JR Moroney dated 9 July 1969

29 Letter from JR Moroney dated 3 November 1969

30 Letter from JR Moroney dated 3 November 1969″

end quote.

Mr Bolt likes keeping up appearances as well. As for the authorities in Japan, we will wait to see if they do a Libby on their own people. Stillborns will be of great interest to them, as they were to Libby, Titterton and the rest.

I refer the reader to the British Redfern Report, in which the British Parliament documented the proven case of British Nuclear Fuels stealing tissue from British deceased nuclear workers in secret, without kin permission, as late as the 1990s. A special interest is still held, at least in England, and probably elsewhere, in the tissue of deceased nuclear veterans.

When the US returned tissue of Japanese atomic bomb victims in the 1970s, the Japanese government officially celebrated.

In 2055 will the Japanese people mourn at the belated admission that from 2011 the Japanese government acted in the same way as Groves, Libby et al from the 1940s to the 1990s in related to the human uptake of shit spewed forth from the still molten and emitting cores at Fukushima. I urge the reader to consult the 1934 patents of Szilard, inventor of the chain reaction, who devised the method of the nuclear chain reaction precisely to produce radioactive poisons. The method he and Fermi used under the authority of the Uranium Committee, S1 and the Manhattan Project to produce a nuclear reactor precisely to produce, not electricity, but plutonium and over 200 other substances. The waste heat used to boil water to turn turbines is a by product of the primary process. To produce radioactive poisons, thousands of times more radioactive per unit mass than the original fuel.

Such shit is now spread far and wide across the affected areas of Japan and the northern hemisphere.

There will be a lot of bones to pick. The hospital pathologists have their work cut out for them, and no doubt this time will be asking for more than 50 bucks.

Further reading for Mr Bolt, or whoever dictates to him.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&dat=19940503&id=hElWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=KesDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7111,467377

http://www.sands.org.au/remembranceday.htm

http://www.wanttoknow.info/a-Dead-babies-bodies-stolen-radiation-research

I could go on. About how Libby had decided initially on secrecy in obtaining human tissue due to legal adivce. About where the fission products in stillborn babies came from. The mothers obviously. The epidemic in of soft tissue cancer in post menopausal women may or may not have something to do with Strontium mobility from bone (along with calcium) in that age range. (Adult bone is one of the least radio sensitive tissues of the body. When it mobilises from bone to fetus to breast, the dose effect is increased by the sensitivity of those tissues. In menopause, calcium and strontium loss is via soft tissue, the circulatory system and the organs of excretion.

Course, Dr Andrew Bolt would call me a fanatic and demand I say sorry. For what? The information he, on behalf of his string pullers, who ask him to write what is, in my opinion, total crap?

https://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/redfern-report-body-snatchers-target-nuclear-veterans/

It’ll be happening in Japan. No doubt about it.

A message from Christina McPherson on Japanese Nuke Agency and Health Issues

November 28, 2011

From:
“Christina Macpherson”
View contact details
Bcc:
pauljeremylangley@yahoo.com.au
N-watchdog gets health role / New agency to handle residents’ well-being, not just reactors

The Yomiuri Shimbun, 25 Nov 11

This looks dodgy indeed. No brief to do anything about health problems. More or less using the people as guinea pigs? And with a brief to make compensation difficult. The final paragraph:

“No specific health damage arising from radiation leaks at the Fukushima nuclear plant has been confirmed. It remains unknown whether there will be such cases and, if there are, how serious they will be. Concrete steps will be taken only after actual health problems have come to light, and if such damage could be recognized as a pollution-caused disease like Minamata disease, the sources said.”

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T111124005522.htm

Christina Macpherson
Antinuclear Australia
http://www.antinuclear.net
http://www.nuclear-news.net

My reply:Usual shit. Im am watching, last concrete thing was from Al Jalzeera, who interviewed a doctor who reported radiation related illness, that was about 3 months ago, then it all went very quiet from the Japanese medicos. of course. Same old. There’s only Busby etc . Any agency will be designed to keep a lid on it and make the illnesses disappear into the background rate. Same old. At the very start the Japanese authorities claimed the bomb tests were harmless and that Fuk was less than that. Then they admit the emissions were equal to 120 atomic bombs. Still safe. They will not admit to any victims and agencies will reinforce that just as they do all over the world.

If authorities were honest re nuke harms the nuke vets would not still be fighting for justice, the Aboriginal death toll would be acknowledged, and the people affected by Chernobyl would not be fighting UN WHO, lackies of the IAEA, who are puppets of the nuke industry. The US DOE would not be raising hormesis from the dead, the idea that “radiation is good for you” beiong an invention designed to discredit the radium dial painters of the 1920s. And that’s on the record. It all is.

Any org set up by gov will run along the same lines as the original Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission, which did not return body parts and soil samples from Hiroshima until the 1970s. Hacks like Andrew Bolt still believe the Groves lie that radiation induced illness does not exist and does not afflict people.

They have it sewn up. A radiation detection instrument not calibrated in government labs does not, according to officials, produce admissible readings.

Its all crap, its all lies. The people have to believe in themselves and form their own judgements as to how far to trust governments who’s job it is to minimise liability, making TEPCO less a corporate dole bludger than it, and the rest of the nuke industry actually is.

If TEPCO had to go to Centrelink for the Dole, and i still worked there, well, a 3 years suspension and no subsidy to the Salvos for giving the bastards a bed and baked beans for the duration.

But I’m not a nice person. Neither are the nukers.